Tuesday, November 13, 2007

Struck me funny

ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- As Georgia descends deeper into drought, Gov. Sonny Perdue has ordered water restrictions, launched a legal battle and asked President Bush for help. On Tuesday, the governor will call on a higher power.

He will join lawmakers and ministers on the steps of the state Capitol to pray for rain.

While public prayer vigils might raise eyebrows in other parts of the nation, they are mostly shrugged off in the Bible Belt, where turning to the heavens for help is common and sometimes even politically expedient.

"Christianity has more of a place in the culture here than in some other region," said Ray Van Neste, a professor of Christian studies at Union University in Jackson, Tennessee. "And it's only natural, in a way, for the public to pray for rain."

Perdue won't be the first governor to hold a call for public prayer during the epic drought gripping the Southeast. Alabama Gov. Bob Riley issued a proclamation declaring a week in July as "Days of Prayer for Rain" to "humbly ask for His blessings and to hold us steady in times of difficulty."


Not going to get into the whole separation of Church and State stuff or anything like that. This just struck me funny that they are scheduling a prayer time and date for this. I just hope God's available at that time. I think he publishes his Google Calendar, I hope they checked that.

That and I never understood the whole group prayer thing. Why is it a big deal to tell everyone that you are planning on praying for something and try to get a whole bunch of people together to do it. I mean I guess I see the show of solidarity for a community and a bonding in those terms, but is a group prayer anymore powerful than a single prayer? Do they get some sort of prayer boost and just how many people exactly do you need for something like that.

I also find it funny that many people will probably drive their SUV's to attend this meeting and not think how it's all connected. Oh well.


  1. Next they will be holding Indian Rain dances, and consulting witch doctors.
    Booga booga booga.

    And why just pray for rain - heck, pray for gold coins - then you can ship in Perrier to wash your socks in?

    And when it DONT rain - does it mean God dont give a crap?


  2. They will have to do more than pray for rain. God hears the prayers of people whose hearts want forgiveness of their wrongdoings. THEN He will hear them and 'heal their land'. But also, 'rain falls on the just and the unjust'.

    And as for how many people, I would think about what Jesus said, "Where two or more people are gathered together in My name--there I am."

    Hopefully they are sincere.

  3. Apperantly its already on his calendar.


  4. Well, if the gov. wants to pray, I am fine with it. I shake my head, bewildered--and wonder why a man of faith did not carry an umbrella.

  5. perhaps he likes getting rained on?

  6. Awesomeness! w000t!

    Yes indeedy, something special happens when a gathering of people pray for a common cause. It attracts a different type of corporate anointing.

    An no I don't think God ever "don't give a crap". His motives are not always clear to us, and honestly sometimes I believe that it doesn't have anything to do with God. People get in a bad situation and want to blame him like he's withholding something from them but they only want something to do with him when they need something.

    It strikes me as funny that it isn't such an odd thing to imagine that there was anything else behind the creation of the world, and that the marvels of nature can be chalked up to random mutations. I believe evolution in a limited form exists, but it is silly to me to try to imagine us not being designed the way we are.

    So if you believe that God created the world from nothing, God providing a little rain to a droughted community seems very reasonable in comparison.

  7. Jon, one day EVERY knee will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Ask for forgiveness now while you have time. We will all come face to face with Him and it isn't His will that any should perish in hell. Hell is a real place and it's not a party. Don't end up there. Find a New King James version of the Bible and read the New Testament section first. A study Bible would be even better. Ask God to help you to understand what you are about to read. I'll be praying for you.

  8. Will my New American Standard Version fail to guide me? I have a unique idea of what "Fundamentalism" is--Christ is the Son of God and died for me--His blood covers my sins. THAT is fundamental and the rest--including Bible versions--is for man to kill others over. So sad . . .

  9. New American Standard I'm not very familiar with. New King James I am. Was I supposed to submit a long list??? I do know the New King James study bibles are thorough in explaining the verses from the original Hebrew and that is why I recommended it. As for this: "... and the rest--including Bible versions--is for man to kill others over. So sad . . ." ....What???

  10. Religious fanaticism has a funny way of making Christians a bigger threat to Christianity than non-Christians. I think what they were talking about was the tendency, especially from the worldly perspective, of people to appear judgmental over bible interpretation. Perhaps the killing portion was just exaggeration?

    Sadly, Christians sometimes tend to be known more for what they DON'T believe in than what they DO. Similar to the fire and brimstone types, who shove in your face threats and condemnation. Though I am a firm believer that there is bad stuffs coming to people that don't believe, I am much more apt to stress that God doesn't want you to believe in him and love him out of fear. God IS love, and wants to bless you, to give you hope and a future, etc...

  11. "I am much more apt to stress that God doesn't want you to believe in him and love him out of fear. God IS love, and wants to bless you, to give you hope and a future, etc..." AMEN.

    Unfortunately, there is a down side for those who don't change their ways and seek Him. That can't be ignored or downplayed if you are on the 'wrong' side. We are only able to be with God in the end if we accept that Jesus paid the ultimate price for our sins and try to live how Jesus taught. That bridge must be crossed first or we can't stand before God in the end. It's not all blessings and love--although that is part of it. There is a serious spiritual battle going on in this world and we need to remember that. Time is short.

  12. As Christians we are supposed to be following the example of Christ, though.. studying his stories you don't see him using fear to motivate people, but instead love.

    I do agree it shouldn't be downplayed, but I think Christians have for way too long gotten a bad rap for being condemnational and judgemental. I don't think we need to conform to the world or anything, but there is a way to build a bridge with compassion, you know? Like the whole cast the first stone thing.

  13. I like "cast the first stone", which ironically wasnt added to the Bible till much much much later.

    I didnt want to start a huge religious discussion, but this turn into something very interesting stuff.

    I'll add just one last thing, Romans 10:13 "Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved.". There's never a time specified when you have to do this, so I'm going to call upon a whole list of Gods and Goddesses right before I croak.

  14. Cory...I hope you don't wait that long and I hope you have enough time.

    Lord, I pray that you will make yourself known to Cory and he knows your grace and mercy before his time is up on this earth.

    In Jesus name, Amen.

  15. Interesting conversations here! backtothebible.org is a good place to learn more

    Good Luck!

  16. Weiner. LOL.

    That is why you can't take bits and pieces out of the bible, you have to get the big picture. There is more that goes along with it - if you take each verse out of context they'll conflict with eachother. For instance:

    Mark 16:16: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    Mark 13:13: And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

    God wants you to believe in and follow him, not only because you will go to heaven, which he wants:

    2 Peter 3:9: ...not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

    but because he wants your Love, and what is best for you.

    The striking thing that I learned when I started really getting more serious about my faith was that you don't have to change your whole life. You don't have to prepare to be saved.. You don't have to do anything but submit. At that point the things that I shouldn't have been doing just started to become less and less interesting to me. And I won't get started on the good things that happened - honestly there are too many to list.

    Look... I had a pretty lousy upbringing. I could have plenty of excuses in the world to be living a broken down life, from being abused to watching my mom get beat up to seeing my family members lives thrown away over drugs to being abandoned by my dad, the list goes on and on. Do you think it is a coincidence that I am such a positive, happy person? I can't think of how that makes sense.

    All I can say is there was a turning point in my life when I was saved. There were no fireworks. There were no miracles. But there was HOPE. For the first time in my life I knew that I really am something special, and I am loved. I've been told that all my life but for the first time I KNEW it for myself. Things 'just happen to' go my way sometimes - looking in from the outside - but I know better. I still have hard times, I still get angry, and I still doubt God sometimes. I don't understand a lot of the things in the Bible, and have my own moments where I struggle to believe something. But I wouldn't have it any other way - I am living a God-led, blessed, joyful life. It ROCKS. Heh

    So do I get a reward for the most bible verses in a comment?