FBI Says Suspects Sought to Form Own Army:
'It's an example of the philosophy of prevention. These arrests were made during the talking stage, long before any bombmaking stage,' said Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. attorney in Florida. 'While they may be seen as bungling wannabes, they are potentially dangerous wannabes who, based on the allegations, were pursuing extremely dangerous plans.'
Look I dont know if these guys would have done anything or not - nor do I wish to see ANYONE suffer or die. However this would seem to be that the mere thought of this was enough. Apparenlty you are now unable to gather together and discuss anything if there is even the mere guise of intent behind it. They are in our heads now - they will be there listening and pretty soon the things we talk about today will be illegal and then there will be no one to blame but ourselves.
I am not talking some whacked out conspiracy theory or anything. Just go grab the US Constitution (including the Bill of Rights) and a copy of 1984 and read them both before voting next time.